correct me if i'm wrong please

[sparkyjon]

hi i've just been reading a few things on the good old net and i'm confused a little,

originally as some may know i was planning on doing my cbt then my das and getting a kawasaki er-6f ,

now from what i'm reading is it possible for me to do my cbt then mod 1 and get a restricted 33bhp er-6f then ride it for two years, then go onto any bike without doing a mod 2.

this might be a better option for me having a big bike with less power as i have no road experience and it would work out  alittle cheaper i suppose.

thanks
jon

[AIRWOLF21]

no you do both mods and then depending on which bbike you did the mods on decides what restriction you have. if you do it on a 125 you ares restricted to 33bhp for two years, ona 500cc bike you arent restricted

[airfix]

But would I be right in adding that you would only be able to ride a bike of more than 33bhp, eg a 500cc unrestricted, with an instructor until you'd passed mod 2 on the said bike...?

[sparkyjon]

what the hell is the a2 part of the bike test then??

as i said i've been on the internet and it could be old info, as far as i can read mod 1 and 2 are for das, but there is the a2 only which will allow you to ride a 33bhp bike regardless of engine size (power to weight comes in somewhere aswell) and after restricted for two years you can ride any bike thereafter?

[sparkyjon]

i've also found this section to be known as 125cc training??

here:http://www.twtwales.co.uk/125cc-training.asp

[airfix]

Ok... The way I see it is this:

Either way you need to complete a CBT and theory test and both module 1 and 2...

Now, you can either do the modules on a 125 cc bike, in which case you will have an A2 for two years after completing and passing module 2 - the final part of the testing process... After these two years have passed your licence will then become an A class licence automatically without you needing to take any further tests...

Or you can take the both modules on a bigger bike that has a bhp over and above the minimum criteria, in which case you skip the A2 part of the licence and get the straight A class immediately on passing mod 2...

But bear in mind you can ride a 125 with L plates once you've completed and passed your cbt with or without an instructor present, but you can't ride a bigger bike without an instructor present - whether it's restricted or not - with L plates...

A2 = full licence with the 33 bhp restriction

A = full licence - no restriction...

Hope that makes sense and helps clear it up a bit... Also hope I'm right...

[lewy]

hi i've just been reading a few things on the good old net and i'm confused a little,

originally as some may know i was planning on doing my cbt then my das and getting a kawasaki er-6f ,

now from what i'm reading is it possible for me to do my cbt then mod 1 and get a restricted 33bhp er-6f then ride it for two years, then go onto any bike without doing a mod 2.

this might be a better option for me having a big bike with less power as i have no road experience and it would work out  alittle cheaper i suppose.

thanks
jon

you cant ride anything bigger than a 125 on a cbt cert , you must pass a mod2 to be able to ride anything bigger, so what you have read is WRONG or you have read it wrong , and after 2 years from passing your Theory that would be when your mod1 becomes invalid

[sparkyjon]

it would seem this a2 is for 17year olds only, i'vce copied this off another training site , the others didnt mention age.

Age 17 -You can take the A2 practical test for a full licence of 25 kwh/33 BHP (two year limit then automaticaly up grades), or A1 which is taken on a machine of less than 120cc (this will restrict you to a 125 but no L-Plates). You will need CBT and Motorcycle Theory Test first.

[DR-Z Ross]

it would seem this a2 is for 17year olds only, i'vce copied this off another training site , the others didnt mention age.

Age 17 -You can take the A2 practical test for a full licence of 25 kwh/33 BHP (two year limit then automaticaly up grades), or A1 which is taken on a machine of less than 120cc (this will restrict you to a 125 but no L-Plates). You will need CBT and Motorcycle Theory Test first.

Right, if you're under 21 you have to take your bike test on a 125, that's mod 1 and mod 2, when you pass you're allowed to ride anything you want but it must be restricted to 33hp, if you're over 21 you can do this if you want, but not sure why anyone would want to.

21 and over you can do the Direct Access Scheme, still, mod 1 and mod 2, then you pass, then you can ride anything you want, no restrictions.

P.S. pretty sure the age is 21, correct me if i'm wrong

[sparkyjon]

doesn't really apply to me i'm 33 so well over that age  , i really should read things properly 

[pricey]

Ok... The way I see it is this:

Either way you need to complete a CBT and theory test and both module 1 and 2...

Now, you can either do the modules on a 125 cc bike, in which case you will have an A2 for two years after completing and passing module 2 - the final part of the testing process... After these two years have passed your licence will then become an A class licence automatically without you needing to take any further tests...

Or you can take the both modules on a bigger bike that has a bhp over and above the minimum criteria, in which case you skip the A2 part of the licence and get the straight A class immediately on passing mod 2...

But bear in mind you can ride a 125 with L plates once you've completed and passed your cbt with or without an instructor present, but you can't ride a bigger bike without an instructor present - whether it's restricted or not - with L plates...

A2 = full licence with the 33 bhp restriction

A = full licence - no restriction...

Hope that makes sense and helps clear it up a bit... Also hope I'm right...

that sounds about right to me 

[paula4u]

it would seem this a2 is for 17year olds only, i'vce copied this off another training site , the others didnt mention age.

Age 17 -You can take the A2 practical test for a full licence of 25 kwh/33 BHP (two year limit then automaticaly up grades), or A1 which is taken on a machine of less than 120cc (this will restrict you to a 125 but no L-Plates). You will need CBT and Motorcycle Theory Test first.

A2 is not  just for 17 years olds...   you can be any age above 17  ie,  also 57!  Just because one is over 21 doesnot mean one wishes to do Direct Access!  If you have no wish to be a sports  speedy  or show off and feel you have all the time in the world to become a better rider before committing to  1000cc plus bikes.   Experience and time on the road  is everything! 

[Bloke]

Or alternatively you have enough money to just "get it done" and dislike making excuses for why you're riding "a kawasukiumphda but its restricted" just go das. :)

Sorry paula but you seem rather elitist/defensive of a2. I'm guessing thats what you have, it's fine if you:

A. Intend breaking the law by derestricting a bike illegally
B. Don't mind always being "that guy" on a rideout.
C. You like waiting an arbitrary amount of time until you're deemed safe enough to do something.

Yes, experience counts but i'd say experience on a non-restricted is worth more if you're going the licenced route.

If you want experience, learn on a 125 using cbt. Its cheaper.

Ultimately a bike will only ever go as fast as you want it to. Doing DAS in no way, shape or form "commits" you to a 1000cc bike. It does mean however that you can be your own judge of your capability, and don't have to pay to have a damn pointless (and in some cases expensive) restrictor fitted.

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[snoopy]

Just do the DAS .... You'll not regret it   



Sorry ...is that over simplifying things ?     

[sparkyjon]

das is the route i'm going after talking to my instructor, i've got my cbt sunday the 8th and he said he'll go through it all with me and see how much of my bike riding experience is still in my old brain lol,, and tell me on the day if what route would be best wether it be ride a 125cc for a while or go straight for das after a few lessons. i'm gonna leave it down to him (he is the professional)

as for  1000cc bike i'm not gonna go that route even if i pass my das, i'm now looking inot an old jap 400 , i'm in love with the oldskool looks , personal preference is the kawasaki zxr400 but i do like all the little 400cc jap bikes..