Are you happy with the current motorcycle training schemes

[UK Bike Forum Member]

I have seen literature which relates a lot of accidents to riders losing control on left hand bends. If that’s the case, include reasonable speed cornering techniques then. How many of us have shit ourselves and run wide when simply leaning the bike a bit more would have got us through the corner with ease. I’ve done it and just been lucky that nothing was coming the other way. It’s taken me years of practice to get reasonably good at this but I still mess up from time-to-time.

I firmly believe some kind of training in this skill would reduce accidents.

But what the f*ck do I know

you are quite right about training ,  one thing that would save  a few brown stains would be that, on cbt  active countersteering should be shown but the DSA do not require it ,however having seen a few students going wide i demonstrate it on cbt and even more so on courses as it makes the avoidance exercise so much easier to complete  (  its not leaning a bike that makes it turn ,but moving the bars in the OPPOSITE direction at speeds above a fast walking pace)

[UK Bike Forum Member]

How about doing away with the CBT altogether so that you would have to pass your full test before you can ride on the road unaccompanied. Instructors would have to provide more flexible training (perhaps similar to hourly car driving lessons) so that people could practice under supervision rather than out on their own on L plates. We could save ourselves a packet by not buying 125s to practice on. 

[UK Bike Forum Member]

IF YOU DRIVE A CAR YOU HAVE TO A FULL TESTAND YOU CANT JUST DRIVE ON YOUR OWN ON L PLATES  SO WHY IF YOU WANT TO RIDE A BIKE YOU DO A DAYS TRAINING THEN A HOUR OR SO ON THE ROAD THEN YOU GOOD TO GO  SO WRONG
IF YOU WERE A 16 -17 YR OLD NO ROAD EXPERIENCE PASS CBT THEN STRAIGHT ON THE ROAD HOW DANGEROUS IS THAT THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO COPE WITH ROUNDABOUTS, BUSY ROADS,TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND SO ON AS I DONT THINK YOU CAN LEARN ALL THIS IN A COUPLE OF HOURS
 
BIKES SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS AND KILL CBT SHOULD ONLY BE USED IF GOING ON TO THE FULL TEST 
THIS IS WHY WE SEE SO MANY KIDS ON L PLATES  RACING ROUND CAUSING PROBLEMS AND GETTING KILLED
I UNDERSTAND WE ALL DRIVE A LITTLE FAST A TIMES 
I PASSED THE NEW TEST LAST YEAR AND BEEN RIDING FOR JUST ABOUT A YEAR AND STILL GET A LITTLE WORRIED A TIMES

MY SON IS 17 AND WANTED TO PASS A CBT AND GET A BIKE I TOLD HIM HE HAS TO DO THE FULL TEST AND GET PROPPER TRAINING OR NOTHING
IT IS EXPENSIVE BUT I WOULD RATHER HIM SAVE THEN RISK HIM GETTING SPLATTERED YOU HAVE  TO SAVE TO DRIVE A CAR

[UK Bike Forum Member]

I'm new to bikes and had to go through the new process but I was amazed that after an hour on the road I could ride a 125 with could do 70mph (just!) It was ok for me as I've driven for 20yrs but some 18yr old who's never been on the road before could be lethal. The CBT should be over 2 days to include more riding.

you should have had a minimum of 2 hrs on road, but everybody is given the chance to take more training(at a cost) but in 6yrs nobody has taken any unless going for a test

The new test is fine but it's due to change again soon isn't it, from my understanding the DSA are not going to allow any learners without instructors, that's a bit much really.

still be able to ride a 125 on L plates BUT the upgrade to a full power bike will not be automatic like present( if a test is passed on a 125 no automatic upgrade after 2 years)

There is a consultation in europe to bring britain into line with the rest of the EU whereby a learner motorbiker cannot ride unacompanied which will destroy the 125 and 50cc markets here if it comes to pass. Several years away yet though. The biggest thing being looked at now is changing the bike test again to sort out the swerve test and the casualties being suffered and getting out of the requiremnt for a 31mph controlled stop

[UK Bike Forum Member]

i like the idea of having to wait until you are 21 and a little bit more mature before buying an r1 or gixxer but why dont they apply the same principles to cars....! We dont want to give the govt any excuses to kill the 50-125cc market in this country so a more balanced approach is required. Testing and training needs to be more affordable. For someone earning the minimum wage in this country it would be impossible to pay bills and learn to ride/drive if they had rent/mortgage, unless of course they spent their evenings doen ocean way selling parts of their anatomy

By all means make the CBT longer and you'll have my vote but make it affordable too!

[UK Bike Forum Member]

i like the idea of having to wait until you are 21 and a little bit more mature before buying an r1 or gixxer but why dont they apply the same principles to cars....! We dont want to give the govt any excuses to kill the 50-125cc market in this country so a more balanced approach is required. Testing and training needs to be more affordable. For someone earning the minimum wage in this country it would be impossible to pay bills and learn to ride/drive if they had rent/mortgage, unless of course they spent their evenings doen ocean way selling parts of their anatomy

By all means make the CBT longer and you'll have my vote but make it affordable too!

unless of course they spent their evenings doen ocean way selling parts of their anatomy
ive seen you down there

[UK Bike Forum Member]

thats what happens when you're marrid hun, you're forced to pay for it! Birthdays and xmas aren't enough!

[UK Bike Forum Member]

Testing and training needs to be more affordable. For someone earning the minimum wage in this country it would be impossible to pay bills and learn to ride/drive if they had rent/mortgage, unless of course they spent their evenings doen ocean way selling parts of their anatomy

By all means make the CBT longer and you'll have my vote but make it affordable too!

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so who would pay the trainers wages ? there is not a lot of money to be made in the training industry , there are bikes / petrol/maintainance / insurance/tax /rental for storage of the bikes and rental of areas to do the  cbt on all of this needs to be paid for

[UK Bike Forum Member]

thats what happens when you're marrid hun, you're forced to pay for it! Birthdays and xmas aren't enough!

to dam right you men dont know suffering till you get married it was in my wedding vows and he agreed to it but we love you all the same   

[UK Bike Forum Member]

Testing and training needs to be more affordable. For someone earning the minimum wage in this country it would be impossible to pay bills and learn to ride/drive if they had rent/mortgage, unless of course they spent their evenings doen ocean way selling parts of their anatomy

By all means make the CBT longer and you'll have my vote but make it affordable too!

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so who would pay the trainers wages ? there is not a lot of money to be made in the training industry , there are bikes / petrol/maintainance / insurance/tax /rental for storage of the bikes and rental of areas to do the  cbt on all of this needs to be paid for

double edged sword there mate, get rid of cbt and you kill the market for 16-17 year olds which is most motorbike schools bread and butter business anyway. If the CBT is longer the school will make more dosh minus the extra fuel costs. Their other costs have already been factored in on one day CBT's so if it was two or three days they'd make more dosh

[UK Bike Forum Member]

personally I find it absurd people do not have to do a theory with the CBT, I have done my cbt twice due to expire and recently failed my theory by getting one too many wrong. How in reality can I be allowed on the roads on a 125 with L plates, in theory I am surely unsafe on the road as I failed my theory! Reviews should be mandatory with any driving licence, every 2-5 years, where you have a kind of mini test, not a fully priced full on test, just checking the basics. is very easy to forget things over time, and though you surely pick up skills with experience, you also pick up bad habits too, just my 2p worth :)

On another note there are also imo a lot of flaws (I am sure a lot agree) with bike laws, the only protection you legally have to wear is a helmet ffs! makes me cringe every time I see someone on a bike with shorts and a t shirt on, the law should be full protective clothing but thats another issue lol