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Bikers Cafe => Motorcycle Maintenance Advice & Problems => Topic started by: wedge on March 07, 2010, 01:44:39 AM
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Allo lads and ladies,
Well to tell the truth I felt a bit inferior today on the rideout... everyone had nice loud exhausts and mind sounded shit! :rofl :rofl
So question:
a) Is it worth putting a can on me CBF?; and
b) Any tips and/or recommendations if I do?
Cheers <3
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Wedge.....
the simple answers:
1. Yes of Course
2. The loudest one you can afford!
:thumbsup
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Definitely go for an aftermarket exhaust, I changed mine on the Fazer as the original was to quiet and "dull" sounding.
I went for the Scorpions from http://www.seastarsuperbikes.co.uk/, which sound superb, took the baffles out yesterday for the ride to work and sounded even better. And when you do don't forget he earplug's.
Cheers
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do it, have a look on ebay, got a scorpion for mine for £45 :thumbsup
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Definately worth getting a can, no matter what bike it is.
Refer to Buzz's thread in bikers show and shine about his new toy. He mentions a company pjEngineering? that you can make your own can :thumbsup
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Wedge.....
the simple answers:
1. Yes of Course
2. The loudest one you can afford!
:thumbsup
What he said :thumbsup
If you can find a stubby one they sound best
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Argh damn you guys! You were supposed to say no, so I wouldn't be tempted to spend money! :rofl
Was looking at a Beowulf can, but am tempted by a scorpion one now :scratch
What's the dealio with insurance?
EIT: Just bought one of these:
http://www.seastarsuperbikes.co.uk/exhaustfitment1.php?yr=04-05&detail=EHA84SEM
:thumbsup :thumbsup
Will this like, make me go faster and stuff now?! :rofl
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What's the dealio with insurance? Don't tell them :innocent
EIT: Just bought one of these:
http://www.seastarsuperbikes.co.uk/exhaustfitment1.php?yr=04-05&detail=EHA84SEM
:thumbsup :thumbsup
Will this like, make me go faster and stuff now?! :rofl I wish they did :nails
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Apparently all scorpion cans are made to order, so I gotta wait around 4 weeks :thumb_down
Didn't see that on the website anywhere :scratch
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dont buy a scorpion one buy an akrapovic or a remus that way you wont need to remap the fuelling as both those makes are designed to just be bolted on and work fine.
if you put a scorpion on you may find a flat spot appears or the bike feels fluffy. thats only a maybe .
but it works out cheaper to buy an akrapovic than to buy a scorpion and a power commander and dyno run.
i had a remus on my 03 r1 and twin akrapovic on the 05 R1 and an akrapovic on the 07 Fazer
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Nice one wedge :thumbsup Gis a shout if you need a hand when it arrives :thumb_up
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Nice one wedge :thumbsup Gis a shout if you need a hand when it arrives :thumb_up
doing what?
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dont buy a scorpion one buy an akrapovic or a remus that way you wont need to remap the fuelling as both those makes are designed to just be bolted on and work fine.
if you put a scorpion on you may find a flat spot appears or the bike feels fluffy. thats only a maybe .
Does that apply just to Scorpion exhausts??
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doing what?
Making sure it's in tune :bore
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dont buy a scorpion one buy an akrapovic or a remus that way you wont need to remap the fuelling as both those makes are designed to just be bolted on and work fine.
if you put a scorpion on you may find a flat spot appears or the bike feels fluffy. thats only a maybe .
Does that apply just to Scorpion exhausts??
no
all of them except Remus and Akrapovic
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all of them except Remus and Akrapovic
Hmm, I never did anything to mine after fitting the Micron! Maybe I'll chuck on the standard can and see if there's a difference!!
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if it comes with a baffle remove it :thumbsup
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Load cans should be banned :nono :nono feckin sportsbike hooligans the lot of yers :nono :nono :innocent
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Cheers for the heads up DHD. I've seen mixed answers on the whole retuning things. Some websites claim their cans don't need retuning, some say maybe, some say nothing. I think its gonna be a suck it and see jobbie.
My bike is carbed, so I spose I won't incur the price of a PC or anything, just a set of jets if necessary.
Cheers Tank! :thumbsup Me old man is a mechanic, but he whinged at me about it saying it might need to be re jetted, and that I better learn to do it myself if it does. And I aint got much experience at doing it :eek :rofl
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dont buy a scorpion one buy an akrapovic or a remus that way you wont need to remap the fuelling as both those makes are designed to just be bolted on and work fine.
if you put a scorpion on you may find a flat spot appears or the bike feels fluffy. thats only a maybe .
but it works out cheaper to buy an akrapovic than to buy a scorpion and a power commander and dyno run.
i had a remus on my 03 r1 and twin akrapovic on the 05 R1 and an akrapovic on the 07 Fazer
Before buying my Scorpions and done a bit of looking around before getting them, and found the FZ6 Forum. And after checking out there mods sections, where various topics were being discussed about different types of aftermarket exhausts.
And what I found was I did not need a remapping of the fuel or install a PC, all that was required was to unplug the battery whilst fitting, so this would reset the EFI
I did not get the whole system, just the Y-piece and slip on cans. I might of needed remapping if I went for the whole system eliminating the cat. I am not sure, to be honest I don't know. I am learning as I go along. So I may be talking bollocks. :rofl
According to the Scorpion website, you "just fit and ride".
I have not noticed any flat spot, then, have you seen me ride :rofl
The above obviously relates to my FZ6 S2 08 Model
Ta
PS... I do have before, after, with/without baffles on vid, from last year I will get my boy to upload it for me later so you can listen to stock and scorpions. If that's ok :thumbsup
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Well the can came today, 3 weeks ahead of schedule :thumbsup
Stuck it on, took the baffle out and went for a ride... Haven't stopped grinning yet! :rofl
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And what I found was I did not need a remapping of the fuel or install a PC, all that was required was to unplug the battery whilst fitting, so this would reset the EFI
I've heard this quoted a few times and the theory is sound, haven't tried in practice so i don't know if it actually works.
The ECU 'learns' and retains the information for how much fuel/air etc is needed for different conditions, throttle openings, temperatures etc. To reset this information you are supposed to disconnect the battery for something like 24 hours to make suure that the system including temporary battery back up is completely dead.
Then after you've fitted your new cans, connect the battery back up then go and ride it hard like you stole it, straight from the off. It's now learning a new set of parameters for your new 'free flowing' system.
Sounds good but personally if i was changing more than a set of cans i'd be looking to adjust the fueling correctly.
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Well the can came today, 3 weeks ahead of schedule :thumbsup
Stuck it on, took the baffle out and went for a ride... Haven't stopped grinning yet! :rofl
Get a video of it up :thumbsup
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Well the can came today, 3 weeks ahead of schedule :thumbsup
Stuck it on, took the baffle out and went for a ride... Haven't stopped grinning yet! :rofl
Get a video of it up :thumbsup
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sounds sweet m8 :thumbsup
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Nice one Wedge :thumbsup
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Sorted wedge thats better man .
In relation to ecu's and learning , yes disconnect the battery only for a hour is fine or 24hrs if thats how yamahas work , but start the bike WITHOUT TOUCHING THE THROTTLE AND LEAVE IT IDLE FOR 15 MINS !!! without touching the throttle or anything else , then it will relearn
This is the tried and tested method for Ktm superduke and Rc8's .
Also the lamda sensor's on modern bikes will cope with a can bolt on , most are narrow band lambda's and they send a signal to the ecu .
The ecu will throw a rich map at the fuelling when its disconnected completely in most cases , but when fitting a free flow filter cans or full system its best to a dyno run done to be sure , to be sure to be sure :thumb_up
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dyno run done to be sure , to be sure to be sure :thumb_up
Because you can never be sure enough! :rofl :thumbsup
Anyways, it seems to be running OK to my untrained ears. There's no loud popping on the over run or anything. A little bit of a burble at low speeds but thats it.