Chain rusting?

[Bloke]

So I appear to be having a massive issue with chain rust.

Before winter I scrubbed it with wd40, until my rag wiped clean. Then washed it with muc-off to get rid of the wd40.

Rode for 30 minutes then liberally applied loads of silkoline chain lube, both direct spray inside and out and with a soaked rag, ran the engine once again to ensure the sprockets got a nice coating too.

Then covered everything metal in a further coating of FS365.

Put the cover on, left it until this month.

Looking at my chain this morning it looks like it was stored in saltwater. It's covered in rust and sticky to the touch!?

I'm not too impressed with the silkoline stuff as it appears to have not protected my chain at all, it also suffers from a massive amount of fling (despite saying no-fling on the can).

Anyone able to recommend a decent lube that will protect my chain properly and am I doing something wrong?

Should I lube every week regardless of miles covered?

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[jasext]

You should use parrafin to clean the chain, then use a ceramic chain wax to coat the chain, i did that for years on my road bike and never had a ny problems but you will get a small amount of surface rust that soons goes when you ride it

[pricey]

i have never used wd40 on my chain to clean it read it some where that it messes up the o rings but others say different ,so have not put it to the test,not worth the risk i just use the jet wash and regular chain cleaner then lots of scott oil put on with a small brush keep the oiler topped up,the bike is never really parked up long enough to let rust form,i get plenty of fling off but i dont mind that,as far as i am concerned the scott oil is taking some of the dirt off the bike when it flings off so less chance of it getting into a paste and grinding into the chain,just my preference really but it works for me

[Bloke]

I follow a dvd guide regarding use of wd40 called driven and ridden (available on youtube if any of you are interested), though I've heard the same said about paraffin and petrol.

A scottoiler is on my list of things to buy, but just not enough money at the moment, maybe it is just surface rust but it looks awful as the entire chain is covered in it.

Ceramic chain wax? Any particular brand you'd recommend?

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[pricey]

I follow a dvd guide regarding use of wd40 called driven and ridden (available on youtube if any of you are interested), though I've heard the same said about paraffin and petrol.

A scottoiler is on my list of things to buy, but just not enough money at the moment, maybe it is just surface rust but it looks awful as the entire chain is covered in it.

Ceramic chain wax? Any particular brand you'd recommend?

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have a look at the tutoro oiler only about £20.00 you have to top it up about every 400 miles but for the price it works for me,only down side you have to turn it off and on manually,bottle of scott oil cost about £7.00 lasts over a year

[Bloke]

Oh nice! Yeah saw their stand at htb, hmm you rate it quite highly then?

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[Phil]

From what I heard wd40 degrades the rings, use chain cleaner and then use a dry lube or wax.

[Gasman]

I've heard the same about wd40.
I've been told paraffin to clean and then whatever oil/wax you prefer.

Personally I went the scottoiler route even though I do not ride my bike as much as most. Also been told you can use chainsaw oil when the original scottoil finishes. Much cheaper.

Invest in a scottoiler Rich, you will not regret it.

[Bloke]

Yeah, so my problem isn't really ring degradation and WD40 is recommended in the autoglym series I mention above, and according to the manufacturer "WD40 does not harm o-ring chains..." I've got a feeling it's all a lot of "I heard that..."

I'm more concerned about the rusting I'm seeing on the rivets and link plates.

I think a tutoro auto (they get released in 2 days) is probably worth a shot.

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[Bloke]

Would go for scottoiler but they cost £90. If a tutoro can do the job for £40 I'm quids in :)

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[Lunkhead]

Sounds like the issue is when you washed off the WD40, which is a water displacer. The lube has sealed the moisture in, instead of expelling it. If you'd used paraffin and lubed on top of that (or on top of the WD40 if it really is OK for O rings), it would be dry and thus no rust.

My manual says to only use paraffin so I've never used anything else. It's cheap enough. I have no rust at all on my chain - the difficulty factor is spraying the inside edge, which I do using a bent spraytube with the rear wheel spinning in 1st gear and a board to catch the overspray. There's no fling either, I let the lube dry off before taking it for a blast.

[Gasman]

Would go for scottoiler but they cost £90. If a tutoro can do the job for £40 I'm quids in :)

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Until you either forget to turn it on or off. :-)

You can get a Scottoiler for £60 so not much more in my opinion.
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[Bloke]

That is a fair one, you're saying that I should skip the water based degreaser step? Interesting!

Inside edge is a pain, which is why I use a rag to apply lube combined with a good spray.

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[Bloke]

Would go for scottoiler but they cost £90. If a tutoro can do the job for £40 I'm quids in :)

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Until you either forget to turn it on or off. :-)

You can get a Scottoiler for £60 so not much more in my opinion.
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Ah that on and off thing is only £20. In 2 days they're releasing an auto one. Like scottoiler.

I am a brand whore though so if I can find a scotoiler for £60 in a weeks time (payday) then i'll go for it :)

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[Gasman]

The link is Busters (M&P), so should still be there.