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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2010, 04:46:24 PM »
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all of them except Remus and Akrapovic

Hmm, I never did anything to mine after fitting the Micron! Maybe I'll chuck on the standard can and see if there's a difference!!

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2010, 05:37:08 PM »
if it comes with a baffle remove it  :thumbsup

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2010, 06:32:16 PM »
Load cans should be banned :nono :nono feckin sportsbike hooligans the lot of yers :nono :nono  :innocent
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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2010, 08:19:31 PM »
Cheers for the heads up DHD.  I've seen mixed answers on the whole retuning things.  Some websites claim their cans don't need retuning, some say maybe, some say nothing.  I think its gonna be a suck it and see jobbie.

My bike is carbed, so I spose I won't incur the price of a PC or anything, just a set of jets if necessary.

Cheers Tank!  :thumbsup  Me old man is a mechanic, but he whinged at me about it saying it might need to be re jetted, and that I better learn to do it myself if it does.  And I aint got much experience at doing it  :eek  :rofl

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 08:47:52 AM »
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dont buy a scorpion one buy an akrapovic or a remus that way you wont need to remap the fuelling as both those makes are designed to just be bolted on and work fine.

if you put a scorpion on you may find a flat spot appears or the bike feels fluffy. thats only a maybe .

but it works out cheaper to buy an akrapovic than to buy a scorpion and a power commander and dyno run.

i had a remus on my 03 r1 and twin akrapovic on the 05 R1 and an akrapovic on the 07 Fazer

Before buying my Scorpions and done a bit of looking around before getting them, and found the FZ6 Forum. And after checking out there mods sections, where various topics were being discussed about different types of aftermarket exhausts.

And what I found was I did not need a remapping of the fuel or install a PC, all that was required was to unplug the battery whilst fitting, so this would reset the EFI

I did not get the whole system, just the Y-piece and slip on cans. I might of needed remapping if I went for the whole system eliminating the cat. I am not sure, to be honest I don't know. I am learning as I go along. So I may be talking bollocks. :rofl

According to the Scorpion website, you "just fit and ride".

 I have not noticed any flat spot, then, have you seen me ride :rofl

The above obviously relates to my FZ6 S2 08 Model

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PS... I do have before, after, with/without baffles on vid, from last year I will get my boy to upload it for me later so you can listen to stock and scorpions. If that's ok :thumbsup
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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 06:31:18 PM »
Well the can came today, 3 weeks ahead of schedule  :thumbsup

Stuck it on, took the baffle out and went for a ride...  Haven't stopped grinning yet!  :rofl

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2010, 07:24:16 PM »
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And what I found was I did not need a remapping of the fuel or install a PC, all that was required was to unplug the battery whilst fitting, so this would reset the EFI

I've heard this quoted a few times and the theory is sound, haven't tried in practice so i don't know if it actually works.

The ECU 'learns' and retains the information for how much fuel/air etc is needed for different conditions, throttle openings, temperatures etc. To reset this information you are supposed to disconnect the battery for something like 24 hours to make suure that the system including temporary battery back up is completely dead.

Then after you've fitted your new cans, connect the battery back up then go and ride it hard like you stole it, straight from the off. It's now learning a new set of parameters for your new 'free flowing' system.

Sounds good but personally if i was changing more than a set of cans i'd be looking to adjust the fueling correctly.

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2010, 08:54:23 PM »
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Well the can came today, 3 weeks ahead of schedule  :thumbsup

Stuck it on, took the baffle out and went for a ride...  Haven't stopped grinning yet!  :rofl

Get a video of it up  :thumbsup

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2010, 11:43:32 PM »
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Well the can came today, 3 weeks ahead of schedule  :thumbsup

Stuck it on, took the baffle out and went for a ride...  Haven't stopped grinning yet!  :rofl

Get a video of it up  :thumbsup

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2010, 09:04:24 AM »
sounds sweet m8  :thumbsup

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2010, 03:37:32 PM »
Nice one Wedge :thumbsup

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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2010, 04:06:03 PM »
Sorted wedge thats better man .

In relation to ecu's and learning , yes disconnect the battery only for a  hour  is fine or 24hrs if thats how yamahas work , but start the bike WITHOUT TOUCHING THE THROTTLE AND LEAVE IT IDLE FOR 15 MINS !!! without touching the throttle or anything else , then it will relearn

This is the tried and tested method for Ktm superduke and Rc8's .

Also the lamda sensor's  on modern bikes will cope with a can bolt on , most are narrow band lambda's  and they send a signal to the ecu .

The ecu will throw a rich map at the fuelling when its disconnected completely in most cases , but when fitting a free flow filter cans or full system its best to a dyno run  done to be sure , to be sure to be sure  :thumb_up 
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Re: After Market Can
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2010, 05:32:03 PM »
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dyno run  done to be sure , to be sure to be sure  :thumb_up

Because you can never be sure enough!  :rofl  :thumbsup

Anyways, it seems to be running OK to my untrained ears.  There's no loud popping on the over run or anything.  A little bit of a burble at low speeds but thats it.
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